The thing that I don’t get about Torchwood is how big the organization is supposed to be. Is it still the world-wide first last and only line of defense from the scum of the universe it was when they captured the Doctor? Or is it 5 dudes? Cos 5 dudes isn’t really Torchwood. It’s a detective agency… If any of them could be considered detectives…
Not that I don’t like the show. It’s great to have something thats Doctor-esc with swearing. :)
Tom 17 November 2006, 11:10 PM
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It’s never been world-wide, it’s always been a British thing. There was no indication that ‘Torchwood One’ from ‘Army of Ghosts’ was bigger than London. I have a feeling that the relative sizes of the London Torchwood and Cardiff Torchwood can be explained by thinking of London as Sydney, and Cardiff as Adelaide, say.
That said, they do seem a little unreliable.
Daniel 18 November 2006, 01:03 AM
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How can you have an agency that protects the world from alien attack if they are limited to Britain? And what about all the talk about being beyond the government, beyond the UN? That implied (to me at least) that they were world-wide.
I guess what I dont like is that all their authority seems to come from Jack. Maybe they need a visit from the Queen to make them seem more legit or something.
Tom 18 November 2006, 03:28 AM
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They don’t protect the world, they protect Britain. They were set up by Queen Victoria, not the UN. That line was a bit dodgy but maybe it was to point out that they have more authority than UNIT. There’s been suggestions that the troops in ‘Day One’ were UNIT personnel.
A visit from the Queen sounds nice. I hear she’s a Who fan but I don’t know what she thinks of Torchwood. Better check her livejournal.
andy 19 November 2006, 01:37 AM
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Your review’s rubbish. Gwen is hotter than Toshiko; Gwen is even hotter with a gun in her hands; and Toshiko does get character development - she’s a computer genius and likes to read books. What more do you want?
andy 23 November 2006, 02:19 AM
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Up until the gun training, I thought this was an interesting episode. Like Cold Case, with a bit of time travel, as they track down various people.
But then they spent the second half looking for the low-life and cramming in a bit about seeing the future. If they’d just kept to the past plot, it would have been more interesting.
Gwen’s closeness to Jack bothers me. She seems like she has a great relationship with her boyfriend, as shown by the happy moments flashback with the device, but spends a lot of time in close contact with Jack, who is her boss. Maybe I don’t understand how irresistably spunky Jack is, or have gotten into the touchy-feely-kissy-ness of this show but I am concerned that the nice guy boyfriend is going to be dumped, or die.
Tom 23 November 2006, 11:32 PM
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I agree about the plot. I would have rather seen Owen (or anyone) get further and further embroiled in the past and become obsessed. Or for them to discover that due to the device being based on human emotions, the history they were seeing was subjective. The prophecy thing has been done before, and better.
I always get grumpy when female characters on screen have happy fun boyfriends that fall by the wayside when their life becomes more interesting. I find it hard not to identify with the happy, fun and boring-compared-to-life-and-death-battles boyfriend.
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Daniel
17 November 2006, 07:44 AM
The thing that I don’t get about Torchwood is how big the organization is supposed to be. Is it still the world-wide first last and only line of defense from the scum of the universe it was when they captured the Doctor? Or is it 5 dudes? Cos 5 dudes isn’t really Torchwood. It’s a detective agency… If any of them could be considered detectives…
Not that I don’t like the show. It’s great to have something thats Doctor-esc with swearing. :)
Tom
17 November 2006, 11:10 PM
It’s never been world-wide, it’s always been a British thing. There was no indication that ‘Torchwood One’ from ‘Army of Ghosts’ was bigger than London. I have a feeling that the relative sizes of the London Torchwood and Cardiff Torchwood can be explained by thinking of London as Sydney, and Cardiff as Adelaide, say.
That said, they do seem a little unreliable.
Daniel
18 November 2006, 01:03 AM
How can you have an agency that protects the world from alien attack if they are limited to Britain? And what about all the talk about being beyond the government, beyond the UN? That implied (to me at least) that they were world-wide.
I guess what I dont like is that all their authority seems to come from Jack. Maybe they need a visit from the Queen to make them seem more legit or something.
Tom
18 November 2006, 03:28 AM
They don’t protect the world, they protect Britain. They were set up by Queen Victoria, not the UN. That line was a bit dodgy but maybe it was to point out that they have more authority than UNIT. There’s been suggestions that the troops in ‘Day One’ were UNIT personnel.
A visit from the Queen sounds nice. I hear she’s a Who fan but I don’t know what she thinks of Torchwood. Better check her livejournal.
andy
19 November 2006, 01:37 AM
Your review’s rubbish. Gwen is hotter than Toshiko; Gwen is even hotter with a gun in her hands; and Toshiko does get character development - she’s a computer genius and likes to read books. What more do you want?
andy
23 November 2006, 02:19 AM
Up until the gun training, I thought this was an interesting episode. Like Cold Case, with a bit of time travel, as they track down various people.
But then they spent the second half looking for the low-life and cramming in a bit about seeing the future. If they’d just kept to the past plot, it would have been more interesting.
Gwen’s closeness to Jack bothers me. She seems like she has a great relationship with her boyfriend, as shown by the happy moments flashback with the device, but spends a lot of time in close contact with Jack, who is her boss. Maybe I don’t understand how irresistably spunky Jack is, or have gotten into the touchy-feely-kissy-ness of this show but I am concerned that the nice guy boyfriend is going to be dumped, or die.
Tom
23 November 2006, 11:32 PM
I agree about the plot. I would have rather seen Owen (or anyone) get further and further embroiled in the past and become obsessed. Or for them to discover that due to the device being based on human emotions, the history they were seeing was subjective. The prophecy thing has been done before, and better.
I always get grumpy when female characters on screen have happy fun boyfriends that fall by the wayside when their life becomes more interesting. I find it hard not to identify with the happy, fun and boring-compared-to-life-and-death-battles boyfriend.
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