It’s unfortunate about portrayal of Se’Tak. I was also quite sympathetic towards the Jaffa position, despite the fact the episode clearly didn’t want us to be.
I’m perhaps imagining things. But I prefer the BSG approach where the episode let’s us makeup our own mind about who is morally right. I can’t articulate exactly how, but the vibe from this episode was definitely “The Humans are right, and we want you to agree”.
But like I said, I’m probably imagining it.
This was my favourite episode in a long long time. I hope this is a sign of things to come. I like the resorting to C4 approach to blow up ships. Classic SG-1 technique.
Still, I hope the humans get punished for their arrogance when it comes to their presumed moral high ground. I hope they have to make a similar choice further down. I’m sick of them clinging to it without question when the fate of everyone in the galaxy is at stake. You think one of them would have thought it was a good idea.
Poor Jaffa. It’s unlukcy the went for the Orisi’s ship first.
Emerson won’t die at the mid-season break. I think he should get his own spin-off.
Andy 28 August 2006, 11:59 AM
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You’re quick.
You’re not imagining it. Stargate does shades of dark grey and off-white. The audience was supposed to be on Landry’s side because nobody likes genocide but the writers not wanting to make the Jaffa look evil or stupid gave Se’tak a reasonable thought out position and argument. It might have been Landry’s arrogance or your irrational hatred of Bra’tac that prejudiced you against them.
There are few situations in life when having the option “d) blow up the c4” would not be useful.
Tom 28 August 2006, 01:20 PM
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Excuse me. I’m the one with the irrational hatred of Bra’tac. Except it’s perfectly rational and surprisingly intense.
I too felt that Landry wasn’t using all the arguments at his disposal. While I agree with Landry’s position (despite the fact that they’ve been known to make similar compromises in the past, or at least the Atlantis crew have), he could have also emphasised the fact that the Jaffa should have damned well told the humans so that an effective double-strike could have been organised.
I like plot-heavy SG-1. That’s where it’s strengths are. I also liked the foreshadowing of some Ori plan involving Daniel. Sounds cooler than your garden-variety evil plan. Perhaps they’re gonna give him control of Wolfram & Hart? You know it makes sense.
hayko 28 August 2006, 10:45 PM
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It was a tiny bit too predictable for my liking, again. Also I didn’t like how entirely immune Adria became later on. A simple shield, eh?
10 years of rescuing the galaxy and they still don’t do well out-smarting their enemies. They just seem to cut the time Sam needs to write a new software to interface the underworks of the enemy ships.
I actually believe Adria will fall in the discussion battle. True, Vala’s arguments aren’t the most ingenius ones’ but Daniel is doing well. And I think I saw her hesitate there for a second before wanting to create a new toy boy for herself.
It’s good that Stargate is cancelled, this way they can only recruite so many actors from other cancelled shows before it’s all over.
Tom 29 August 2006, 12:11 AM
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Adria was entirely immune from the beginning of the episode, wasn’t she? I’m disturbed by your lack of faith in Origin, Hayko.
SG-1 are often forced to be stupid for the sake of the plot but this time I felt it was the Jaffa who suffered that fate. And I don’t mind that so much. SG-1 were in a pretty unexpected and tricky situation, and I think they did the best they could.
If it wasn’t for some of these actors from cancelled shows, it wouldn’t be nearly as good. Let’s have more! Would you say no to Jewel Staite, Hayko? (yes, yes, she’s already been in Atlantis, I know)
Andy 29 August 2006, 04:34 AM
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Once SG-1 is cancelled all the sci-fi actors will be let back into the wild, free to migrate to other shows. I know a certain British sci-fi that needs a new companion. I think the Doctor and Sam would be a great match.
Adira’s immune and SG-1 can be teleported away. It’s ideal for conversations.
I don’t think SG-1 did anything wrong ni this episode, aside from Sam’s choice of hat.
Jack 29 August 2006, 06:39 AM
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I forgot about that cool forshadowing with Daniel. Yes! Please! If nothing else, I want Stargate to end with Daniel being freaking awesome while at the same time not getting himself killed/punished by the ancients.
hayko 29 August 2006, 10:45 PM
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That would indeed make for a nice twist. Daniel being powerful and freaky, again.
But Adria was gone for some time the first time. It almost seemed like she had to recover or hide until the wave had diminished. Second and consecutive times, she just pushed a button and went on happily.
I wouldn’t mind seeing more of Jewel Staite, no sir.
Andy 29 August 2006, 11:54 PM
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She was hiking back to the ship. The Stargate guys beam in and out but she’d have had to walk.
Tom 25 September 2006, 01:04 AM
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I was just wandering past when I noticed your semi-accurate prediction of Emerson’s death. Only one episode off. Not bad. Note to self; never hang around major characters for too long without becoming an integral member of their team.
I hope it was an honest prediction.
Andy 25 September 2006, 08:17 AM
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If it was a dishonest prediction it would have been more accurate. Emerson had lived longer than most starship captain’s so it was his turn to die.
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Jack
28 August 2006, 11:38 AM
It’s unfortunate about portrayal of Se’Tak. I was also quite sympathetic towards the Jaffa position, despite the fact the episode clearly didn’t want us to be.
I’m perhaps imagining things. But I prefer the BSG approach where the episode let’s us makeup our own mind about who is morally right. I can’t articulate exactly how, but the vibe from this episode was definitely “The Humans are right, and we want you to agree”.
But like I said, I’m probably imagining it.
This was my favourite episode in a long long time. I hope this is a sign of things to come. I like the resorting to C4 approach to blow up ships. Classic SG-1 technique.
Still, I hope the humans get punished for their arrogance when it comes to their presumed moral high ground. I hope they have to make a similar choice further down. I’m sick of them clinging to it without question when the fate of everyone in the galaxy is at stake. You think one of them would have thought it was a good idea.
Poor Jaffa. It’s unlukcy the went for the Orisi’s ship first.
Emerson won’t die at the mid-season break. I think he should get his own spin-off.
Andy
28 August 2006, 11:59 AM
You’re quick.
You’re not imagining it. Stargate does shades of dark grey and off-white. The audience was supposed to be on Landry’s side because nobody likes genocide but the writers not wanting to make the Jaffa look evil or stupid gave Se’tak a reasonable thought out position and argument. It might have been Landry’s arrogance or your irrational hatred of Bra’tac that prejudiced you against them.
There are few situations in life when having the option “d) blow up the c4” would not be useful.
Tom
28 August 2006, 01:20 PM
Excuse me. I’m the one with the irrational hatred of Bra’tac. Except it’s perfectly rational and surprisingly intense.
I too felt that Landry wasn’t using all the arguments at his disposal. While I agree with Landry’s position (despite the fact that they’ve been known to make similar compromises in the past, or at least the Atlantis crew have), he could have also emphasised the fact that the Jaffa should have damned well told the humans so that an effective double-strike could have been organised.
I like plot-heavy SG-1. That’s where it’s strengths are. I also liked the foreshadowing of some Ori plan involving Daniel. Sounds cooler than your garden-variety evil plan. Perhaps they’re gonna give him control of Wolfram & Hart? You know it makes sense.
hayko
28 August 2006, 10:45 PM
It was a tiny bit too predictable for my liking, again. Also I didn’t like how entirely immune Adria became later on. A simple shield, eh?
10 years of rescuing the galaxy and they still don’t do well out-smarting their enemies. They just seem to cut the time Sam needs to write a new software to interface the underworks of the enemy ships.
I actually believe Adria will fall in the discussion battle. True, Vala’s arguments aren’t the most ingenius ones’ but Daniel is doing well. And I think I saw her hesitate there for a second before wanting to create a new toy boy for herself.
It’s good that Stargate is cancelled, this way they can only recruite so many actors from other cancelled shows before it’s all over.
Tom
29 August 2006, 12:11 AM
Adria was entirely immune from the beginning of the episode, wasn’t she? I’m disturbed by your lack of faith in Origin, Hayko.
SG-1 are often forced to be stupid for the sake of the plot but this time I felt it was the Jaffa who suffered that fate. And I don’t mind that so much. SG-1 were in a pretty unexpected and tricky situation, and I think they did the best they could.
If it wasn’t for some of these actors from cancelled shows, it wouldn’t be nearly as good. Let’s have more! Would you say no to Jewel Staite, Hayko? (yes, yes, she’s already been in Atlantis, I know)
Andy
29 August 2006, 04:34 AM
Once SG-1 is cancelled all the sci-fi actors will be let back into the wild, free to migrate to other shows. I know a certain British sci-fi that needs a new companion. I think the Doctor and Sam would be a great match.
Adira’s immune and SG-1 can be teleported away. It’s ideal for conversations.
I don’t think SG-1 did anything wrong ni this episode, aside from Sam’s choice of hat.
Jack
29 August 2006, 06:39 AM
I forgot about that cool forshadowing with Daniel. Yes! Please! If nothing else, I want Stargate to end with Daniel being freaking awesome while at the same time not getting himself killed/punished by the ancients.
hayko
29 August 2006, 10:45 PM
That would indeed make for a nice twist. Daniel being powerful and freaky, again.
But Adria was gone for some time the first time. It almost seemed like she had to recover or hide until the wave had diminished. Second and consecutive times, she just pushed a button and went on happily.
I wouldn’t mind seeing more of Jewel Staite, no sir.
Andy
29 August 2006, 11:54 PM
She was hiking back to the ship. The Stargate guys beam in and out but she’d have had to walk.
Tom
25 September 2006, 01:04 AM
I was just wandering past when I noticed your semi-accurate prediction of Emerson’s death. Only one episode off. Not bad. Note to self; never hang around major characters for too long without becoming an integral member of their team.
I hope it was an honest prediction.
Andy
25 September 2006, 08:17 AM
If it was a dishonest prediction it would have been more accurate. Emerson had lived longer than most starship captain’s so it was his turn to die.
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