Maybe Magpie was pulled over for speeding, got taken downtown because of his suspicious behaviour, released when nothing was found wrong, taken back to his car and drove to the tower. That would account for the missing time.
I think that the Wire was vulnerable when face-sucking. It didn’t know what the Doctor was about to do and didn’t want to risk its grand plan.
also new comment thingy fancy.
Tom 5 June 2006, 03:15 AM
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That’s definitely a possibility. As is the Wire’s vulnerability. They weren’t strictly holes as such but a few more explanations to keep us in the fiction wouldn’t have gone astray, especially where in the latter case, the behaviour of the Wire doesn’t mesh with standard logic for that situation.
Isn’t it fancy. I like it. I tested the ‘This isn’t me!’ link once so I’m assuming it’s working for everyone. Presumably people will notice if it’s wrong. Otherwise we’ll get an epidemic of wrong names on the wrong people and it’ll be all my fault.
Jack 5 June 2006, 04:11 AM
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Are scientific explanations important in Buffy?
I don’t like it when inconsistencies in science/magic are used to cover up holes in the plot, or get characters out of situations. It undermines the drama of the entire show.
The Wire being able to suck people’s faces off does not fall into this category. It’s hardly a repeat of the whole intravenous drip/cure thing. I think after only ten minutes of exposure to a new enemy we have the right to decide what it can and can’t do, especially after only one explanation about it being energy based.
I think the fan’s out there that are taking serious issue with this are watching the wrong show. It’s hardly inconsistent with the rest of the series. Why does all their goodwill suddenly stop short here? I thought it would have stopped at the autons, or the sonic screwdriver.
Although I suspect these people are the people who have been complaining since the show started again.
This isn’t directed at anyone here of course. Might have been a better reply to your blog.
I agree that lack of explanations regarding odd behaviour can take you out of the fiction. Maybe they are in deleted scenes. Did they talk about it in confidential? Did Magpie walked. Although he probably didn’t.
Tom 5 June 2006, 04:29 AM
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There’s plenty of anti-screwdriver outcry too. I don’t like the way the Doctor keeps pointing it at people like a weapon but I get by.
Even Buffy has to make a certain amount of internal logic. But of course they don’t need scientific explanations. But I like your goodwill point. It was only the Wire failing to absorb the Doctor moment that took me out of the fiction. I was expecting him to fight back psychically or something, which would have made more sense on the surface, and perhaps explained why the kid was safe too (the Doctor was able to protect him).
Magpie was definitely driving like a hoon. They didn’t mention any deletions in Confidential.
Jack 5 June 2006, 04:33 AM
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In an unrelated question…
Is the Doctor brilliant? Clearly he is compared to people he meets, but he might just have a race advantage. Is he smart for a Time lord? Was it ever established anywhere? I know there where those pompous losers in the original series but just ignore them for a second. I don’t know how much Time Lord interaction he got in the books.
It’s a stupid question, I’m just curious.
Jack 5 June 2006, 04:36 AM
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I would have liked the Doctor fighting psychically . They could have simply made him immune, I always like that sort of stuff for some reason. It’s a shame they didn’t.
andy 5 June 2006, 04:58 AM
7
Just a racial bonus. +2 Int, +2 Cha.
I think the Doctor was bluffing when he pulled the screwdriver against the Ood.
Jack 5 June 2006, 05:06 AM
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He should bluff with something scarier looking perhaps.
Andy 8 June 2006, 03:47 AM
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Maybe he had a way to kill them all, like he did in the Cyberman cliffhanger. Fortunately the Ood turned out to be friendly so he spared them. I don’t think the Doctor should be wielding his screwdriver as a weapon unless it’s got unmentioned zapping powers. He had pulled it out to compare it to Captain Jack’s weapon in the gas mask episode but he didn’t use it offensively.
When the Wire did its face hugging, I think the Doctor would have used his screwdriver to break the connection more than directly zapping the Wire, given the previous uses of the screwdriver. The Wire did mention that it was exposed when face hugging at some point so it chose between sucking face with the intelligent alien with the mysterious, dangerous device and going to conquer London.
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andy
5 June 2006, 12:21 AM
Maybe Magpie was pulled over for speeding, got taken downtown because of his suspicious behaviour, released when nothing was found wrong, taken back to his car and drove to the tower. That would account for the missing time.
I think that the Wire was vulnerable when face-sucking. It didn’t know what the Doctor was about to do and didn’t want to risk its grand plan.
also new comment thingy fancy.
Tom
5 June 2006, 03:15 AM
That’s definitely a possibility. As is the Wire’s vulnerability. They weren’t strictly holes as such but a few more explanations to keep us in the fiction wouldn’t have gone astray, especially where in the latter case, the behaviour of the Wire doesn’t mesh with standard logic for that situation.
Isn’t it fancy. I like it. I tested the ‘This isn’t me!’ link once so I’m assuming it’s working for everyone. Presumably people will notice if it’s wrong. Otherwise we’ll get an epidemic of wrong names on the wrong people and it’ll be all my fault.
Jack
5 June 2006, 04:11 AM
Are scientific explanations important in Buffy?
I don’t like it when inconsistencies in science/magic are used to cover up holes in the plot, or get characters out of situations. It undermines the drama of the entire show.
The Wire being able to suck people’s faces off does not fall into this category. It’s hardly a repeat of the whole intravenous drip/cure thing. I think after only ten minutes of exposure to a new enemy we have the right to decide what it can and can’t do, especially after only one explanation about it being energy based.
I think the fan’s out there that are taking serious issue with this are watching the wrong show. It’s hardly inconsistent with the rest of the series. Why does all their goodwill suddenly stop short here? I thought it would have stopped at the autons, or the sonic screwdriver.
Although I suspect these people are the people who have been complaining since the show started again.
This isn’t directed at anyone here of course. Might have been a better reply to your blog.
I agree that lack of explanations regarding odd behaviour can take you out of the fiction. Maybe they are in deleted scenes. Did they talk about it in confidential? Did Magpie walked. Although he probably didn’t.
Tom
5 June 2006, 04:29 AM
There’s plenty of anti-screwdriver outcry too. I don’t like the way the Doctor keeps pointing it at people like a weapon but I get by.
Even Buffy has to make a certain amount of internal logic. But of course they don’t need scientific explanations. But I like your goodwill point. It was only the Wire failing to absorb the Doctor moment that took me out of the fiction. I was expecting him to fight back psychically or something, which would have made more sense on the surface, and perhaps explained why the kid was safe too (the Doctor was able to protect him).
Magpie was definitely driving like a hoon. They didn’t mention any deletions in Confidential.
Jack
5 June 2006, 04:33 AM
In an unrelated question…
Is the Doctor brilliant? Clearly he is compared to people he meets, but he might just have a race advantage. Is he smart for a Time lord? Was it ever established anywhere? I know there where those pompous losers in the original series but just ignore them for a second. I don’t know how much Time Lord interaction he got in the books.
It’s a stupid question, I’m just curious.
Jack
5 June 2006, 04:36 AM
I would have liked the Doctor fighting psychically . They could have simply made him immune, I always like that sort of stuff for some reason. It’s a shame they didn’t.
andy
5 June 2006, 04:58 AM
Just a racial bonus. +2 Int, +2 Cha.
I think the Doctor was bluffing when he pulled the screwdriver against the Ood.
Jack
5 June 2006, 05:06 AM
He should bluff with something scarier looking perhaps.
Andy
8 June 2006, 03:47 AM
Maybe he had a way to kill them all, like he did in the Cyberman cliffhanger. Fortunately the Ood turned out to be friendly so he spared them. I don’t think the Doctor should be wielding his screwdriver as a weapon unless it’s got unmentioned zapping powers. He had pulled it out to compare it to Captain Jack’s weapon in the gas mask episode but he didn’t use it offensively.
When the Wire did its face hugging, I think the Doctor would have used his screwdriver to break the connection more than directly zapping the Wire, given the previous uses of the screwdriver. The Wire did mention that it was exposed when face hugging at some point so it chose between sucking face with the intelligent alien with the mysterious, dangerous device and going to conquer London.
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